It boggles my mind that some people are very much into technological decentralization, but think that political centralization is just fine.
@untitaker It never bends towards total centralization and total decentralization never hurt anyone.
@untitaker ... imho.
@skddc You're the one arguing for totalism. I haven't seen anybody who advocates total political centralization, i.e. dictatorships.
@untitaker Not true. A central parliamentary government is as centralized as a dictatorship. People are people. There's never one person.
@skddc Is the EU as centralized as a dictatorship for you?
@untitaker Even more so, because a dictatorship couldn't even contain or justify that level of undemocratic centralized rulemaking.
@skddc "people are people", but how many of them participate in decision-making?
@untitaker ... it's only possible under the veil of "democracy".
@untitaker Very few in both systems. That's why centralization is always bad. Exactly the same as in technology.
@skddc It also doesn't have to justify anything, as opposed to the EU.
@untitaker Also untrue. Any system has to have a minimum level of consent among the governed to prevent its downfall.
@untitaker ... also very much the same as the current system. Less than a 5th of Germans actually voted for Merkel.
@untitaker ... and nobody ever gets in jail for scamming the public. You take your hat and that's it. No justification needed.
@skddc I already see that for you the proportions are completely different. No sense in discussing.
@untitaker If you're saying that 20% consent is justifying democratic dictatorship, then yes, I have very different proportions in mind.
@skddc I'm saying that 20 is larger than 0.
@skddc But I'm not even agreeing with your numbers.
@untitaker Then look at history. It's never 0. NSDAP were voted into government by a democratic majority. Can't overtake a country alone.
@untitaker Nothing to agree with really. It's a fact that most modern central democracies don't have majority consent among the governed.
@skddc Well, my "facts" say the opposite.
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@skddc Sometimes the tradeoff bends in one direction, sometimes in the other. What is so surprising about that?
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